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Something a bit different this week as Alexa is joined by two guests. Cat Ogden is a singer and vocal coach who specialises in singing for mental health and well-being, and she is alongside the founder of Sing Now, Sarah Joyce. As you’ll see from the episode title, congratulations are in order as both guests on Singing Teachers Talk are expecting, so the topic of conversation is all around understanding pregnancy for the singer and the self-employed.


  • In Dr Catherine Gardner’s report, she notes that the common physical experiences of pregnancy such as nausea, vomiting, breathlessness, swelling, reflux, difficulty sleeping, and fatigue were sometimes made worse by singing.
  • Cat experienced debilitating sickness while pregnant with her second child which led to vomiting, losing weight, and hospitalisation. As someone who is self-employed, there was nobody to fall back on while she was ill. There was no one else to take her students’ lessons and she had to do it all herself. 
  • The vomiting Cat experienced while ill, affected her voice but she was able to find support from Pregnancy Sickness Support, which is linked in the notes below. 
  • The positive impacts that pregnant women brought up in Dr Gardner’s research included greater breath awareness, reduced performance anxiety, and the ability to refocus priorities. 


‘I was literally vomiting either side of lessons’ 

‘Acid reflux through trimesters 1, 2, and 3 was a really big one for me’ 

‘When it comes to performing, I’m more relaxed than I ever have been’


BAST Training 

Guest Website:

Social Media: 

  • @sarahjoycesing
  • @catogdensinging

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Sarah Joyce:

On graduating from Guildford School of Acting in 2008, Sarah made her West End debut in Zorro at the Garrick Theatre, covering and playing the lead female role, Luisa. This was followed by a world tour as a principal singer on board Cunard’s renowned Queen Victoria. Sarah then toured the UK with the 25th-anniversary production of Phantom of the Opera, covering and playing Madame Giry, and appeared in the London Palladium production of Scrooge starring Tommy Steele, where she played Mrs Cratchit.

As well as running her own choir in Surbiton, Sarah gigs with the London Contemporary Voices and is the lead singer for the Soultanas, funk & soul band. In addition, Sarah enjoys working as a vocal coach at her studio in Guildford as well as teaching at Italia Conti and the University of Creative Arts. She holds a certificate in vocal health first aid from Vocal Health Education and is now a Vocal Habilitation Professional.

Cat Ogden:

Cat Ogden trained at UCLan in Music Theatre and is currently studying for a Master’s in Voice Pedagogy with the Voice Study Centre. She specialises in teaching children and young adults, and in singing for mental health and wellbeing. Cat has a certificate in mental health first aid, and vocal health first aid and has completed the BAST 20-hour course. She lives in Cheshire. 

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